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Subject: RE: FW: EPICS 3.15.1
From: "Dudley, David" <[email protected]>
To: EPICS Tech-Talk <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 16:40:50 +0000
Have to agree with Ralph on that point.

Support modules may build (and probably -should- build) test programs to insure they operate correctly, but I don't see why those should be built as a part of the library.  Separating the library from the test program would seem to make sense to me, as the process to create the actual test program now becomes exactly the same as the process used to create an IOC using that module.

Seems a better way to separate functions, to me.

I'll add 0.5ct to Ralphs suggestion....

David Dudley
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Facility for Rare Isotope Beams
Michigan State University
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Lange
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:59 AM
To: EPICS Tech-Talk
Subject: Re: FW: EPICS 3.15.1

While we're at it...

On 03/12/2014 16:44, Mooney, Tim M. wrote:
> For any synApps module, you should include <module>Support.dbd, and not <module>.dbd, because <module>.dbd is what the module builds for its own use, while <module>Support.dbd is what it builds for export to other modules.  For autosave, the names are as.dbd and asSupport.dbd.

This is indeed the synApps model of naming things, but synApps is a bit special in this regard.

The more common pattern is to have <module> export <module>.dbd for inclusion by applications, and I would lean towards proposing synApps make a step in that direction.

What is "its own use" for a support module anyway? By definition, a support module provides a library and resource files (like dbd files and db templates) that go with it. Tests and examples should rather be moved into embedded self-contained TOP structures - 3.15 provides convenient Makefile rules to do that. This has multiple advantages: it clearly separates support module and example code (inexperienced users usually can't tell which is which in the existing mixed modules, and create worse applications as a result), and it allows simply copying out the complete embedded example tree into their own work area (requiring only a change in the configure/RELEASE file to locally build a correct full example app).

Just my 2.5ct...
~Ralph



Replies:
RE: FW: EPICS 3.15.1 Mark Rivers
References:
EPICS 3.15.1 Dudley, David
FW: EPICS 3.15.1 Dudley, David
RE: FW: EPICS 3.15.1 Dudley, David
Re: FW: EPICS 3.15.1 Michael Davidsaver
RE: FW: EPICS 3.15.1 Mooney, Tim M.

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