EPICS Controls Argonne National Laboratory

Experimental Physics and
Industrial Control System

1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999  2000  2001  2002  2003  2004  2005  2006  2007  2008  2009  2010  2011  2012  2013  <20142015  2016  2017  2018  2019  2020  2021  2022  2023  2024  Index 1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999  2000  2001  2002  2003  2004  2005  2006  2007  2008  2009  2010  2011  2012  2013  <20142015  2016  2017  2018  2019  2020  2021  2022  2023  2024 
<== Date ==> <== Thread ==>

Subject: RE: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories
From: "Dalesio, Leo" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: Grzegorz Lech <[email protected]>, 'Rafał Konrad Pawłaszek' <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 21:44:36 +0000

Open source and a large community of developer’s and uses may be an important factor for a scientific facility that needs to run for 25 years. I don’t know about the other two, but EPICS has a very active and supportive community with companies and scientific facilities that offer support to others in the community.

Look at the V4 web site for ideas about a road map. We are becoming clear on what is needed to support high level experiment control, data acquisition, data analysis, model based control, and standard services and prototypes of all of them are either deployed or in development.

It may be useful to attend an EPICS meeting if you are truly interested in the completeness of this table.

Bob Dalesio

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Piotr Sybilski
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Grzegorz Lech; 'Rafał Konrad Pawłaszek'
Subject: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories

 

Dear Madam/Sir

I am researching a subject of decoupling hardware and software components in small and medium sized astronomical observatories (up to 2.0 m): removing single point of failures (USB, RS232), introducing new standards and increasing the reliability and availability of observatories. I am software developer and architect for Project Solaris (4 autonomous observatories on 3 continents) and a start-up company working on control software. After a long research and many discussions within the community, we ended up with three solutions on the table:

-          DDS,

-          OPC UA,

-          EPICS.

 

My personal opinion can be summarized in this small table:

 

DDS

OPC UA

EPICS

learning curve

steep

steep

steep

price for start-up

good

high

free

feature set

large

very large

very large

Support (community/commercial)

very good

very good

good

market share

high

very high

low

internet of things/future

well established

very well established

unknown

low memory/CPU devices support

good

very good

fair

Roadmap

clear

Clear

unknown

 

The table doesn’t show the clear winner but emphasizes that the DDS and OPC UA have brighter future, higher market share and better support. However I am not very familiar with EPICS, so I am probably missing a few points. Could you point me to the sources or give me more information on the comparison DDS vs OPC UA vs EPICS? During the last SPIE conference in Montreal I finished with votes (projects working and being happy with) 3 for OPC UA, 2 for DDS, 1 for EPICS and 1 for ZeroMQ.

 

I would be grateful for pros and cons of each technology that you can provide (our typical astronomical observatory consist of tens of devices, some of them redundant, real time communication is not required but quick event propagation and QoS is welcomed, some devices are simple sensors, some simple actuators, there are few devices that can produce bursts of data, for example CCD camera can produce 200 MB in one second, the data doesn’t have to be propagated through the system immediately, but shouldn’t choke the communication, some kind of prioritization is welcomed).

 

Best regards

Piotr Sybilski

 


Replies:
RE: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories Piotr Sybilski
References:
New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories Piotr Sybilski

Navigate by Date:
Prev: Re: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories J. Lewis Muir
Next: RE: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories Piotr Sybilski
Index: 1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999  2000  2001  2002  2003  2004  2005  2006  2007  2008  2009  2010  2011  2012  2013  <20142015  2016  2017  2018  2019  2020  2021  2022  2023  2024 
Navigate by Thread:
Prev: Re: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories J. Lewis Muir
Next: RE: New standards for small and medium sized astronomical observatories Piotr Sybilski
Index: 1994  1995  1996  1997  1998  1999  2000  2001  2002  2003  2004  2005  2006  2007  2008  2009  2010  2011  2012  2013  <20142015  2016  2017  2018  2019  2020  2021  2022  2023  2024 
ANJ, 17 Dec 2015 Valid HTML 4.01! · Home · News · About · Base · Modules · Extensions · Distributions · Download ·
· Search · EPICS V4 · IRMIS · Talk · Bugs · Documents · Links · Licensing ·