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Subject: Re: [Fwd: EPICS Base @ HP-UX: Volunteers wanted]
From: Noboru Yamamoto <noboru.yamamoto@kek.jp>
To: Kazuro FURUKAWA <kazuro.furukawa@kek.jp>
Cc: Andrew Johnson <anj@aps.anl.gov>, EPICS tech-talk <tech-talk@aps.anl.gov>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:48:14 +0900
Hi,

As Kazuro already reported, KEKB&PF-AR/KEK are in the process of
replacing HP-UX hosts with Linux/MacOSX/True64(OSF1-Alpha) hosts.
On HP-UX, EPICS 3.13.6 or older are still used for operation.
For Tornado/VxWorks, Sun/Solaris workstation has introduced.

In J-PARC, the project I currently working on, HP-UX machines are thrown
away sometime before and uses mostly Linux for OPI side.
(Personally, I test EPICS software on MacBook, but it is not officially
supported in J-PARC)

So, I think, it will not be a big issue for KEK to drop a support for
HP-UX in the future versions of EPICS.

Regards,

Noboru

Kazuro FURUKAWA wrote:
> Dear Andrew and Ralph, 
> 
>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:01:41 JST,  Andrew Johnson <anj@aps.anl.gov> wrote;
>> In order that Ralph's Call For Volunteers receives as wide an audience 
>> as possible, I'm forwarding this message to tech-talk (apologies to the 
>> core-talk folks who've already seen it once).  If your site expects to 
>> need to run EPICS R3.14.9 on HP-UX, you should have someone step up now 
>> or we may have to drop HP-UX from the list of architectures officially 
>> supported by EPICS.
> 
> Are we the only HP-UX EPICS users on the planet?!  I'll look into 
> our resource, but maybe we don't need newer versions of EPICS on 
> HP-UX.  So...  At KEKB, although I keep two HP-UX machines for 
> some reason and I have installed R3.14.8.2, the versions of HP-UXen 
> are V10.20 and V11.0 ...  They are old and normally run R3.13 
> clients. 
> 
> Instead, we may be interested in keeping Tru64 and FreeBSD. 
> Our main client platforms are Darwin and Tru64.  We will re-
> introduce Linux machines again, partially to replace HP-UX.  Other 
> facilities like Linac, Photon-Factory and J-PARC are using Linux 
> as the main EPICS clients.  
> 
> FYI, R3.14.8.2 on HP-UX V11.0 mostly works for me.  Somehow, 
> startup/EpicsHostArch.pl did not work.  Other than that, I 
> simply modified SHRLIB_SEARCH_FULLPATHDIRS in 
> CONFIG_SITE.Common.hpux-parisc, and it worked.  Thanks to Ralph!!
> 
> Regards, Kazuro. 
> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: EPICS Base @ HP-UX: Volunteers wanted
>> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:27:06 +0100
>> From: Ralph Lange <Ralph.Lange@bessy.de>
>> Organization: BESSY
>> To: EPICS Core Talk <core-talk@aps.anl.gov>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> trying to resolve the situation with an outdated C++ compiler crashing
>> on the EPICS sources, I found out that BESSY doesn't seem to be able to
>> support testing Base on HP-UX any longer.
>>
>> We are in the middle of converting to Linux, the software on our few
>> remaining HP-UX machines has been in frozen state for a while, so asking
>> for an update of a compiler to test a software that is not going to be
>> used on that platform
>> ... sounds a lot like asking someone to waste time to be able to waste
>> more time.
>>
>> I know we intended to keep HP-UX supported for 3.14 and I know there are
>> others still using HP machines, so I'm not feeling too happy with this
>> issue. In any case I would like to keep the HP-UX configuration files
>> around for a little longer.
>>
>> Well, I'm throwing the ball high up in the air and start running ....
>> maybe one of the KEK colleagues (the only remaining HP users as far as I
>> know) is able to catch it?!
>> I'm definitely willing to continue helping with ideas and suggestions,
>> if someone takes over. No question. But without a current system and
>> compiler I'm not able to compile nor test.
>>
>> Sorry -
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest
>> bears and the dumbest tourists -- Yosemite National Park Ranger
> 
> -----
> Kazuro FURUKAWA <kazuro.furukawa@kek.jp>
>  Linac&KEKB,  High Energy Accelerator Research Organization (KEK), Japan

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