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Subject: Re: Among the things for which I wish...
From: Noboru Yamamoto <[email protected]>
To: Jeff Hill <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Pete R Jemian'" <[email protected]>, "'EPICS-tech-talk'" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:25:51 +0900
Jeff Hill wrote:



Just two comments.

1) Why we need to restrict ourselfe to LDAP? I agree that LDAP is a good
choice at the moment,
but we don't know 5 years later. And EPICS core life will be much longer
than that.
At least, we have to have a layer to separate LDAP dependent part from
other.

2) This functionality should be optional. User of EPICS should be able
to start a simple thing in a simple way.




How this is integrated is certainly a big issue. For instance, I'm not fond of requiring that an EPICS site must build and install LDAP prior to installing or using EPICS base. However, a competing thought is that it would be nice to come up with a fairly consistent solution between sites providing wildcard based name resolution. I do agree that placing all of our eggs in the LDAP basket might be risky. Needs more thought.

The CA gateway has built-in caching directory service capabilities which are
already being used as a mechanism for scaling EPICS systems. However, this
does not provide wild carding capabilities. Since they are open source, and
already implemented, then the wildcard features in systems such as LDAP are
certainly attractive.


"wild carding" is usefull functionalily but we don't need to restrict ourselves to it.
We might want more fexible search functionality. For example we might wants a list of active channel names
connecting RF klystron in a part of accelerator complex, say LINAC sector A.


Combining LDAP with RDB can be a solution, but I'm not sure if it is technically possible.

Please note that I'm not trying to oppose to LDAP. I think it is a realistic solution for the problem we have.
I'm just trying to door open, so that we can extend EPICS in future.


Regards,

Noboru

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: Noboru Yamamoto [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:42 PM
To: Jeff Hill
Cc: 'Pete R Jemian'; EPICS-tech-talk
Subject: Re: Among the things for which I wish...

Jeff Hill wrote:



<snip>


We are considering making changes so that an IOC uploads its record


list to


an LDAP server when its databases are loaded. Among other benefits this
would allow for wildcard queries using open source LDAP client


libraries.


One of my papers at ICALEPCS 03 discusses some of the issues


surrounding the


use of EPICS in WAN.

Jeff





Just two comments.

1) Why we need to restrict ourselfe to LDAP? I agree that LDAP is a good
choice at the moment,
but we don't know 5 years later. And EPICS core life will be much longer
than that.
At least, we have to have a layer to separate LDAP dependent part from
other.

2) This functionality should be optional. User of EPICS should be able
to start a simple thing in a simple way.

Noboru









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