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Marty Kraimer wrote:
dataAccess does not define basic primitive data types such as int16,
int32, int64. This means that unless something else besides dataAccess
defines such types two data sources have no way to guranteee that
their primitive data types are compatiblle. In fact for the exact same
propertyId one source may store the data as a, int32 and the other
side as a float64. With dataAccess alone they have no way of knowing
except by some other means such as conventions about propertyIds.
Since dataAccess does not define primitive data types, application
code has no way to guarantee precision for data without some
conventions on top of dataAccess. Thus if the application uses the
type long it does not know if this is 32 bits or if it is 64 bits. For
network applications it certainly seems desirable to have a way to
guarantee precisions.
I think we should distinguish between the system wide well-known
primitive data types and the types used in the interface.
Iirc, at the SLAC meeting we were agreeing on an additional dataAccess
traversal() method that yields the complete property structure together
with the native types of the properties. (NB: And the access rights info?!).
Those native types have to be well-known, size-fixed types that have a
tag which is defined for the server and client side. So that the server
can show the correct native type if asked for. So that the client can
ask for and understand what's behind a certain property and use a local
type that is wide enough to hold the data.
The types that dataAccess uses in its interface to the data, should by
all means be the native types of the language that a certain
implementation of dataAccess is written in.
I would like a client app in any language to be able to find out that a
certain value's native type is "unsigned int32", but I would also like
the same client app to freely choose data types of its language for its
data instead of forcing all client data to be of type epics... If the
interface is to be simple, it must use the simple types of its language.
Bottom line: the supported well-known primitive data types and the types
that a certain implementation of dataAccess implements in its interface
functions are two pairs of things.
Ralph
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